Motor identifizieren

  • Hallo,


    ich habe einen 93er Spi mit angebenen 53 PS. Der Vorbesitzer hatte angeblich den Motor und das Getriebe getauscht. Jetzt stellt sich mir aber die Frage ob er wieder einen 53PSer eingebaut hat oder ob es gar ein 63er ist.


    Gibt es irgend wo einen Kennung am Motor und Steuergerät, die mir die PS Zahl verrät?



    Schon mal vielen Dank

  • ja die motornummer an sich ! gibt schonmal eine aussage ob es sich bei dem Motor um die 53PS Version oder um die 63 PS version handelt.

  • Okay Danke ich habs.


    Aber sagen tut mir die Nummer jetzt nix. Vielleicht kann mir da jemand weiter helfen.


    Nummer: 12A2DF75 257665



    MFG Georg

  • 9,4:1 verdichtung, 3.1:1 eü, spi, g-kat, 53ps

    If you can't stand a joke, don't drive one

  • Mensch Danke!


    Was du da alles aus den Zahlen ließt, Rispekt.



    Wenn ihr da jetzt so viel raus leßt, kann man an dem Motor was machen. Damit er etwas mehr Bumms hat.


    Habe jetzt schon Bastuck Anlage ab Kat und Spolufi.



    MFG und Vielen Danke

  • Hallo,
    die Bastuck und der Lufi allein bringen beim SPi nicht wirklich was. Sorry.
    Aber bemühe mal die Suche nach "SPi Tuning".


    Gruß, Marco
    Mini seit 1989.

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  • Hier die Motorenliste für den Mini :
    Viel Spaß beim lesen.


    Original engine identification numbers

    850cc
    8A Austin up to 25000
    8MB Morris up to 25000
    8AM Austin & Morris 25000 onwards
    8AH Austin & Morris Automatic
    8AJ Austin & Morris closed circuit breathing
    8AK Austin & Morris automatic with closed circuit breathing
    8WR Wolseley Hornet & Riley Elf
    8AC Moke
    85H/101 All variants 1969 onwards

    Note: third suffix letter denotes compression type, L = Low, H = High, e.g. 8AM/U/H101 denotes high compression.


    998cc
    9WR Wolseley Hornet & Riley Elf Mk2, pre closed circuit breathing
    9AD Austin, Wolseley Hornet & Riley Elf Mk2 with remote type gearbox and closed
    circuit breathing
    9AE Wolseley Hornet & Riley Elf Mk3
    99H/-/101 on Wolseley, Riley, Mini 1000, Clubman1000 1970 onwards and Mk3 with dished
    piston
    99H/791 Mini 1974 onwards with dished piston
    99H/997 1980 onwards A+ block, flat top psitons, economy fitment with 2.95 final drive
    99H/A97P A+ block with dished pistons, pre-A+ gears, 3.44 final drive & 12-inch wheels


    998 A+ block with centre locating tang in main cap, 1985 onwards
    Flat top piston with circlip wrist pin retention
    99H/B81 Up to engine number 127431
    99H/C20 Up to engine number 105023
    99H/997 From engine number 127422 with 2.95 final drive
    99H/A35P

    Flat top piston with press fit wrist pin
    99H/B81 From engine number 127432
    99H/C20 From engine number 105024
    99H/D80

    Flat top pistons with press fit wrist pins, Lead-free cylinder head
    99H/G30 or G32 or G33
    99H/F15 or F16
    99H/E20 or E21
    99H/D81
    LBB10089

    Dished pistons with circlip wrist pin retention
    99H/B83P Up to engine number 102908
    99H/B84P Up to engine number 100216

    Dished pistons with press fit wrist pin
    99H/B83P From engine number 102909
    99H/B84P From engine number 100217

    Dished pistons with press fit wrist pin, Lead-free
    99H/G31
    99H/E22
    LBB10175


    Gruß, Marco
    Mini seit 1989.

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  • 1100cc (1098cc)
    10AMW/Ta Clubman Estate and Austin 110 (ADO16 shape)
    10H791 Clubman saloon
    10H/-/H All Austin 1100 2 & 4 door derivative Saloons (ADO16 shape)
    10GR/Ta/H MG1100 (ADO16 shape)
    10GRB/Ta/H MG1100 & Wolseley 1100 (ADO16)
    10V/Ta/H Vanden Plas 1100 (ADO16 shape)


    997 Cooper
    9F/Sa/H101 to 2637 except 19201 to 20410 (became 1070S)

    998 Cooper January 1964 onwards)
    9FA/Sa/H Mk1 Austin pre closed circuit breathing
    9FD/Sa/H Mk1 Morris up to engine number 1934, all Austin Mk2 closed circuit breathing and
    Morris Mk2 from engine number 1935-33660 with closed circuit breathing
    9FD/Xe/H 4 syncro gearbox introduced
    99/-/H Last of manufacture 1969


    Cooper S variants
    970cc
    9F/Sa/X Engine numbers 29001-29003 with Tecalamit filter
    9FD/Sa/X Closed circuit breathing introduced with Tecalamit filter
    9FE/Sa/X Closed circuit breathing, oil filter with oil light switch introduced
    9F/Sa/X Engine numbers 29039-30029 Purolator oil filter with oil light switch and closed
    circuit breathing
    1070cc
    9F/Sa/H Engine numbers 26501 to 33660 and 19201 to 20410
    9FD/Sa/H Engine numbers 33661 to 33948 with closed circuit breathing and oil light switch in
    oil filter head
    1275cc
    9F/Sa/Y Engine numbers 31001 to 31504 pre closed circuit breathing with Purolator oil filter
    9FD/Sa/Y Closed circuit breathing with oil light switch on filter housing after engine number
    32178
    9FE/Sa/Y Closed circuit breathing with oil light switch on Purolator filter housing and piston
    design change
    9F/Sa/Y From engine number 32378 onwards, cosed circuit breathing with Purolator filter
    with oil light switch, Aeg510 camshaft introduced at engine number 40006, cross-
    drilled EN40Bcrank at engine number 42730 and metal dipstick tube at engine
    number 42548 onwards
    12H397 Cooper S Mk3 with dynamo, negative earth and Tuiftrided EN16T crankshaft
    12H398 Cooper S Mk3 with alternator, negative earth and Tuftrided EN16T crankshaft

    Note: Only Cooper S engines with prefix '9F' had EN40B forged steel, nitrided crankshafts. All other A-series engines had EN16T steel crankshafts which were only Tuftrided on Mk3 'S' and Austin 1300GT (ADO16) and were stamped 12G1683.


    Gruß, Marco
    Mini seit 1989.

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  • 1275cc, Solid wall block (no tappet chest covers)
    12G/Ta/H ADO17 shape Wolseley, Riley, MG & Vanden Plas fitted with S rods
    12H379 1275GT with dynamo, negative earth, electric fuel pump and remote type gearbox
    12H380 1275GT with alternator, negative earth, electric fuel pump and remote type gearbox
    12H389 1275GT with dynamo, negative earth, mechanical fuel pump and remote type gearbox
    12H390 1275GT with alternator, negative earth, mechanical fuel pump and remote type gearbox
    12H706 1275GT with alternator, negative earth, mechanical fuel pump and rod changegearbox
    12H397 Cooper S Mk3 with dynamo and negative earth
    12H398 Cooper S Mk3 with alternator and negative earth
    12H/-/ 1275 Austin ADO16 & Allegro
    12H610/635 Innocenti Mini with duplex cam drive gears and 11-stud head
    12H719/832 Innocenti Mini with simplex cam drive gears and 11-stud head

    1275cc, 1990 onwards (12A numbers)
    12A/2A Carburrettor type
    12A/2B Carburrettor and catalyst type
    12A/2D SPi (Single Point injection - Tbi, throttle body injection) with 9.4-1 CR
    12A/E SPi (Tbi - throttle body injection) with 10-1 CR
    With the following suffixes:
    F53 10.0-1CR, 3.105 final drive, catalyst, oil cooler
    F75 9.4-1CR, SPi, 3.105 final drive, closed loop catalyst
    F76 9.4-1CR, automatic with closed loop catalyst
    F77 10.0-1CR, SPi Cooper, 3.2 final drive, closed loop catalyst
    G01 10.0-1CR, 3.105 final drive, catalyst, no oil cooler
    G03 9.4-1CR, 3.105 final drive, catalyst, May 1992 onwards
    G04 9.4CR, 2.76 final drive, catalyst, French only spec
    G05 9.4-1CR, automatic with catalyst


    Gruß, Marco
    Mini seit 1989.

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  • Factory replacement engine reference numbers (i.e. New, and Gold and Silver Seal units)
    8G28 850cc - Oil feed to primary gear type crank with 1.375-inch tail shaft
    8G35 850cc - Deva bush conversion type crankshaft with 1.375-inch tail shaft
    8G45 850cc - Gold Seal, 1.5-inch self oiling primary gear/crankshaft type
    GSE1101E 850cc - Gold Seal unit
    RKM1101E 850cc - Silver Seal unit
    BHM1307E 850cc - Gold Seal unit, 85H prefix replacement
    8G18 997cc Cooper - Oil feed to primary gear type crankshaft
    8G29 997cc Cooper - Deva bush type primary gear and crankshaft
    8G36 997cc Cooper - Oil feed converted primary gear and crankshaft
    8G33 998cc Cooper - Fitted with 28G193 (12G202) cylinder head
    8G40 998cc Cooper - 28G222 (12G295)cylinder head introduced
    8G42 998cc Cooper - Closed circuit breathing rocker cover and side plates
    8G49 998cc Cooper - Purolator oil filter with oil light switch introduced
    GSE1103E 998cc Cooper - Gold Seal unit, was RKM1120E Silver Seal
    RKM1103E 998cc Cooper - Silver Seal unit
    8G57 998cc - New from 1969 and exchange for all pre-A+ up to 1981
    GSE1102E 998cc -Gold Seal unit, was RKM1119E Silver Seal unit, pre-A+ up to 1981
    RKM1102E 998cc - Silver Seal unit, pre-A+ up to 1981
    RKM1119E 998cc - Silver Seal unit, replaced by RKM1102E, pre-A+ up to 1981
    BHM1232 998cc - Low compression dished piston, CAM6267 camshaft, early cylinder head and crankshaft main bearings with side locator tang, A+
    BHM1377 998cc - High compression flat top piston, CAM4717 camshaft, early cylinder head and crankshaft main bearings with side locator tang, A+
    BHM1458 998cc - Low compression piston, CAM6267 camshaft, late A+ cylinder head and crankshaft main bearings with central locator tang, A+
    BHM1460 998cc - High compression press-fit wrist pin piston, CAM4717 camshaft, late A+ cylinder head and crankshaft main bearings with central locator tang, A+
    LBB10089 998cc - Low compression press-fit wrist pin piston, CAM6267 camshaft, lead - free late A+ cylinder head and crankshaft main bearings with central locator tang, A+
    8G156E 1100cc - Clubman, Special and Austin 1100 (ADO16)
    RKM1150E 1100cc - Silver Seal unit for Clubman and Special
    RKM1151E 1100cc - Silver Seal unit for Clubman and Special
    BHM1042 1100cc - New and Gold Seal units for Clubman and Special, 1974-1980
    BHM1229 1100cc - New and Gold Seal units for Clubman and Special, A+ Block, 1980 on
    8G38 970cc - Gold Seal unit, pre closed circuit breathing, Cooper S
    8G41 970cc - Gold Seal unit with closed circuit breathing sideplates, Cooper S
    8G46 970cc - Gold Seal unit withoil light switch in filter housing, Cooper S
    8G133 1070cc - Gold Seal unit, pre closed circuit breathing, Cooper S
    8G153 1070cc - Gold Seal unit with closed circuit breathing side plates, Cooper S
    8G145 1275cc - Pre closed circuit breathing unit, Cooper S
    8G154 1275cc - Closed circuit breathing side plates unit, Cooper S
    8G155 1275cc - Oil filter housing with oil pressure light switch, Cooper S
    8G174 1275cc - Fitted with AEG510 camshaft, Cooper S
    38G464 1275cc - Introduced in 1970, most of which were fitted with EN16 Tuftrided crankshaft
    8G200 1275cc - New and Gold Seal units Clubman 1275GT
    38G527 1275cc - New and Gold Seal units for engine numbers prefixed 12H706, 12H707 & 12H831 for Clubman 1275GT
    RKM1130E 1275cc - Silver seal unit, was RKM1112E, for Clubman 1275GT, pre-A+
    RKM1152E 1275cc - Silver Seal unit for Clubman 1275GT, pre-A+
    RKM1112E 1275cc - Silver Seal unit for Clubman 1275GT, pre-A+
    BHM1220 1275cc - A+ unit for Clubman 1275GT
    8G199E 1275cc - Gold Seal unit with Duplex cam drive gears for 1300GT (ADO16) and Innocenti 1300, 11-stud cylinder head
    38G559E 1275cc - Gold Seal unit with Simplex cam drive gears for engine numbers prefixed
    12H719 and 12H832, for 1300GT (ADO16) and Innocenti 1300, 11-stud cylinder head
    GSE1109E 1275cc - Gold Seal unit for 1300GT (ADO16) and Innocenti 1300, 11-stud cylinder head
    RKM1133E 1275cc - Silver Seal unit for 1300GT (ADO16) and Innocenti 1300, 11-stud cylinder head
    BHM1209E 1275cc - Gold Seal unit, replaced all Innocenti 1300 engines from engine numbers prefixed 12H610, 12H635 and 12H832
    Notes:
    All engines pre-fixed with 'GSE' or 'RKM' were of UNIPART origin when BL split its parts organisation.
    'E' at the end of a part number denotes it is a reconditioned, service unit only (basic engine assembly with no ancillaries).
    'N' at the end of a part number denotes a brand new unit.


    Gruß, Marco
    Mini seit 1989.

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  • ich würd einfach n guten, passenden zylinderkopf draufsetzen, das reicht eigentlich.
    hängt aber davon ab was du erwartest

    If you can't stand a joke, don't drive one

  • Zitat von KLAS

    ich würd einfach n guten, passenden zylinderkopf draufsetzen, das reicht eigentlich.
    hängt aber davon ab was du erwartest


    Na gut was erwarte ich, möchte mit dem Kleinen einfach en bissel spaß haben. Dazu brauch ich keine 100 PS. Mir reicht etwas mehr.


    Wo krieg ich denn nen guten her? Gibts vielleicht jemand der die hier bearbeitet?



    MFG georg

  • @ cooper1275
    Sehr schöne Liste, woher stammt die?


    MfG

    es ist kurz vor fünf vor halb:


  • Andreas Hohls Firma Mini Mania.


    Der kann Dich auch gleich beraten was in welcher Kombination Sinn macht und was nur Geldverschwendung ist.
    Er wuerde Dir auch niemals einen fuer Deine Zweck zu grossen Kopf oder unsinnige tuningteile verkaufen nur um mehr Gewinn zu machen.


    Gibt natuerlich auch noch andere serioese Haendler. Allerdings nur sehr wenige verstehen das Handwerk der Zylinderkopfbearbeitung und viele muessen daher fertig produzierte Koepfe einkaufen. Muss natuerlich nicht heissen dass diese schlechter sind, je nachdem wo sie billig oder teurer eingekauft worden sind.


    Gruss


    Holger

    Realität ist eine Illusion, die durch den Mangel an Alkohol hervorgerufen wird

  • ccpirat
    Ich kann Holgi1600 nur zustimmen. Bei Andreas Hohls habe ich nur gute Erfahrungen gemacht. Einfach anrufen und unverbindlich anfragen, was möglich und sinnvoll ist.


    Gruß, Marco
    Mini seit 1989.

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  • Habe den Herrn Hohls gestern noch kontaktiert. Er hat mir auch gleich ganz schnell viele Informationen zugeschickt. Das ganze machte mir wirklich einen sehr guten Eindruck.
    Ihm gefällt allerdings meine Bastuckanlage absolut nicht. Die möchte ich nun wieder ungern her geben.


    Naja, werde das Leistungstuning auf nächstest Jahr verschieben. Stelle jetzt erstmal das Fahrwerk in den Fordergrund, sammle Erfahrung und werd Spaß haben. Das scheint mir grad das Vernünfigste.
    Nützt ja nix wenn ich nen tollen Motor hab, aber am Baum hänge.


    MFG Georg

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